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Old 02-27-2009, 08:44 AM
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Tried it again last night.... No luck...

I've never been accused of having a small mouth but I'll try trimming it...
LOL...I trimmed mine to 'smithereens' and still nothing. I probably tried 8 or 9 different ones and still nothing. I finally ended up with a Primos Dome and that did the trick. It is made to position the call properly in your mouth every time. Made learning a breeze!! And once you master it, you have it made with the rest of them Just an idea you might wanna try....

Here's a link so you can see what I am talking about:

https://shop.primos.com/pc-757-29-so...le-turkey.aspx
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:48 PM
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you jus out it in the mouf an say tik tik tik. talke normal. ony need to cut is if you bited it.
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Old 02-28-2009, 06:36 AM
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Adrian posted this awhile back.....I have had mouth calls and tried them before to no avail, i read this and I followed his directions and guess what ? I'm doing it....
My friend gave me a Woodhaven pro series mouth call lastyear for taking him hunting, I told him I would use by this year, not really thinking I would be able to get it,but I did and it's been with me everyday for the last 3 weeks or so...I'm getting it !!! and I might even hunt with it, I know I'll be using it as a locator call, just not sure if I'm ready to actually talk a bird to me with it, but i have 3 weeks or so before season, so I might.....

Mouth Call Placement

The key to mouth calls is Mouth call placement. Having the call placed in the right area in the palette. Another good start is a clear call with two reeds, that’s a call with no cuts in the top reed, (Twin Two) or (Beginner’s double). I have found that a lot of first timers are getting on the Scream'in Green Pro Triple as well. Do not start out with a single reed or Raspy calls.

A new call taken from the package should be creased down around the frame of the calls tape, so that you can see the top and bottom (Tab) of the call. If wanted you can cut down the tape in size as well, but I suggest only taking off about 1/16th at a time until comfort is found. Do not bend the frame if at all possible, this will loosen the latex reeds and sound will drop off.

The mouth call should be set with the front of the Latex on the middle part of your tongue. When placement is found, if you don't have the placement right then all the words that you mimic will not help you. The mouth call should be placed in with the Tab of the call down, and the longest reed up. A beginner should have the gagging reflex as the tape from the call is at the back of the throat. Just slightly off the back part of the palette on the fleshy tissue. This is normal and will go away with practice.

By placing your middle front of your tongue up on the call, you will hold more pressure on the sides of your tongue up against your molars to stop airflow from escaping. The main flow of air is going to travel down the center crease of your tongue and out your mouth. You want to try to keep your lips only open only a little and allow the air to come out under your front teeth.

By making the sound SHHHHHHHH you should get the high note of the turkey yelp. This is the start, from this sound you do not want to move your tongue and only work your bottom jaw. By lowering your bottom jaw slightly you will take off pressure and get a lower pitch sound.
Now by closing your jaw again the note will because high again. Working these two notes faster together and this will create the yelping of the hen wild turkey.

By using your jaw, and your Lungs/Diaphragm/Tummy, you’re going to huff air and use your jaw to regulate the airflow that is exiting your mouth. On every note the caller needs to huff some air out to produce the sound. With the volume of air and the jaw action working together, will allow one too take off and apply pressure with your tongue too the reed of the call to make the sound needed. By keeping the pressure on the reed and huffing air from your chest (Diaphragm) and mimicking the words (That have been subjected) you should get some sounds that are close to the calls you want. Practice is the next step.

First - Place the call into the proper spot on your tongue and place the Mouth Call up into the Palette, Through your nose you are going to take a deep breath of air and hold it in your chest, slightly open your mouth and softly say the word HECK and stop the air flow on the K of the word hec k. At this point you’re Call, Air pressure and Jaw should be in right spot to try the word Kee - Yuk for the yelp. The Kee part of the call is the High note of the yelp. This note has more pressure applied then of the Yuk part. With out taking your tongue off the call and dropping your jaw you will get the low note of the Yuk. By keeping a steady flow of air exhaling and applying pressure to the mouth call with your tongue and using a on and off pressure with your Jaw you should get the proper sounds to make the Yelp.

Yelp - 2 note call High and Low - Kee-Yuk or Che-Yuk speed the two together,
Kee or Che being the high note, and Yuk being the Low note

Tree yelp - very soft quiet yelps and limited to 4-5 in a slower rhythm, a odd soft cluck can be added as well to the yelping.

Cluck - One note, fast and cut off quick - Buck, it should sound more like Buk.

Cut - its a Cluck only faster and broken up in beat- with high and low notes mixed -Buk,Pic,Buk,Buk,Cuk Pik Pik,Buk,Pik Cuk Buk,Pik Buk - kind of beat.

Cackle - Is a cluck also, only start off with quiet slow Cluck then into a fast series of clucks then tapered to slow low notes. Buk,Buk, Cuk Cuk Cuk Cuk Cuk,Cuk,Buk,Buk,Buk.

The Cluck,Cackle,and Cut are all Clucks only done with different Beat and Pitch.

Purr , can be done a couple of different ways , by a flapping of the front part of your lips , as kids would do a motorboat in water , or like gargling with mouth wash in the back of the throat allowing the vibrations to travel on the front part to the reeds.

After learning the calls another calling success to practice is the Cadence and form of each call, Rhythm, Pitch and Tone. This is another important part of a hunter’s success rate.

Learning to control the call the proper way on every call is a knack that not all can do. I believe Good Calling Comp's with Top notch callers can help one be a better hunter when it comes to the calling aspect. Not every bird can be fooled, but it sure gives one a lead on pressured birds. I believe woodsman ship also plays a roll in the hunt but put the two hand in hand together and you can have a deadly hand of success.

Tip:
Mouth Calls; tend to break down over a hunting season. As moisture adsorbs in the latex and more volume and pressure is added to the call to make it work, latex tends to stretch or slip from the frame and the life/sound of the call starts to slip. Buying new calls before the start of the season is a good idea.

Picture enclosed on this post is a Placement drawing that will give you an idea of where the mouth call should be.

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Old 03-01-2009, 08:02 PM
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So I picked up a video from Primos on turkey hunting and it came with a free Primos Sonic Dome mouth call....

Well I can actually blow on it maybe twice before I gag and spit it across the room...

I guess you can call it progress....
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Old 03-20-2009, 07:44 AM
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YA,

Anymore progress?
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:57 AM
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Not really. I did get the little one from promos to make a sound right before t spit it across the room.

Not sure if this is going to work...
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