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Colorado Rick 05-29-2008 11:38 PM

Limb sizes
So is it just me, or are limbs getting shorter and shorter?

I was reading an article in Outdoor Life and I swear the limbs on some of these 2008 bows are TINY!!! I'm sure its not an optical illusion that the risers are getting WAY long too.

What's the deal?? At some point we won't be able to get the dang things into a standard vice... then what??? Wish??

Monie 05-30-2008 06:15 AM

Yep, wish in one hand and spit in the other. :rolleyes: lol :D

You want short, look at the LibertyI. The little sucker is the bow version of a handgun!

Anyway, I know what you mean. I think that technology and design are just getting better. So, the need for long limbs is being replaced by a more efficient limb design and better cams. I imagine that at some point we will no longer need a vice. There are already a few bows on the market that don't need one.

MJewell 05-30-2008 07:04 AM

What the heck!!

Who makes that bow? That looks very strange to me.

Monie to you have any specs on that bow, ATA, IBO that kind of stuff.


Monie 05-30-2008 08:04 AM

Liberty Archery makes it. Here are the specs:

RISER - A357-T6 aluminum riser (same
material used for jet impeller blades)
BOW LENGTH - 20.5" axle to axle

DRAW LENGTHS - 25 1/2, 26 3/8, 26 7/8, 27 3/8, 28.0",
28 7/16", 28 3/4", 29 3/8", 30", 30 1/2", 31.0", 31 1/2", 32 "
Draw Length Not adjustable.
No modules, unique cam, cables, and string per draw
DRAW WEIGHTS - 30-40#, 35-45#, 40-50#, 45-55#, 50-
60#,55-65#, 60-70#, 65-75#,72-82# (order by peak
weight)Draw weight is adjustable 10 lbs down from peak
STABILIZER MOUNT - Center Front, 5” long fits case.
PEEP SIGHT - String angle requires special Liberty peeps.
SIGHTS - Most sights work fine, see accessories.
CAM - High speed, high let-off, split cable design.
LET-OFF- 85%, ask about 65% let-off
HOLDING WEIGHT - 10.5 lbs for 70 lb bow =85% let-off.
ARROW SPEED IBO-308 fps, AMO-242 fps. Note longer
draw. Using allowed 4 grains/lb arrows speed is 338 fps.
HANDLE - Lightweight cushioned synthetic rubber angled
at 29 degrees. See photo in Design History.
STRING - Vapor Trail (prestretched) After 1/15/2006
CAMO - RealTree Hardwoods High Definition Green-Jordan
Sims - String Leeches & Bow Jacks cable silencers
BOW PRESS - Is not needed to replace or change the
string. Not needed to replace a cable. Bow press is only
need to replace cams or limbs. Most crossbow presses can
press the Liberty I. The Apple Archery crossbow center
($170) works great but in 95% of the cases is not needed..

Bow Drawn 05-30-2008 10:07 AM

Colorado Rick it's a shorter brace height I think is what is being seen. The race for speed is moving the brace height down under 7" and the limbs are showing it in the length. If you look at bows with a 7" or more brace height the limbs are back to normal.

The bow Monie has brought out is the real deal and in the right hands it has taken about every big game animal out there.

ACPOSSETIM 05-30-2008 03:46 PM

I shot the liberty the year it came out at ATA, its actually a pretty nice shooting bow if you can get your head around it. The hard part for me was the string jus seems like something is off when you are at full draw. But it is actually very pleasant to shoot, I think it would be great for a backpack trip or bowfishing.

timba 05-31-2008 09:27 AM

A friend of mine bought a PSE X force SS this spring its 26",I find it really small but it shoots nice.


Colorado Rick 05-31-2008 11:30 AM

Ok so is that a bow for a midget er what?

That is just rediculous. I can't believe that design would hold up to a 60 to 70# draw. And the Draw length to 28 inches??? You gotta be kidding me.
Where would a Peep sight go? 4 inches below the top cam? I mean seriously!

If it's just limbs, then the compact compression would mean a DRAMATIC "V" on the string when one draws the thing.

Colorado Rick 05-31-2008 11:42 AM

Ok so I looked again and sure enough... the peep is RIGHT ON THE CAM!

Not sure I like that idea too much. Can you imagine a limb snapping on that thing? Sure the risers are getting smaller too, but that thing has a what... 3 inch "riser" at best?

That thing just looks dangerous. Maybe I'm a big ol' wuss on this...

Great White Hunter 06-03-2008 11:46 AM

It's all about the brace height my brotha'

Shorter brace height means faster arrow & more kinetic energy

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